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  God is Real in Principle

  by looter in

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  now the majority of people nowadays do no go by the hope of old times.

  now the reason for this is important and goes beyond mere words.

  our culture sees ethics especially national or civil politics as the rules and standards by which we guide ourselves.

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  rebelfighter

  I think Cofty needs to research his last post on Christianity because it fails the test big time. Especially point 2 that one is not truthful and in some denominations has not been true for 30 some years. I personally have attended gay weddings as far back as 25 or 30 years.

  As for point 1 the reason some of this is not acceptable is because of the prolife issues. It is my understanding that there has been great results from adult stem cell especially regarding MS. This is not my field but found out about it today when talking to a prolife advocate and her husband who is an attorney in this field.

  I think you need to check your facts.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses and racial prejudice by Werner Cohn

  by slimboyfat in

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  race is asserting itself as a problematic issue united states once more.

  i always thought jws had a relatively good track record on race.

  they preach a world without prejudice after all.

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  TD

  North or south
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  New letter, re: Fully Utilizing Kingdom Hall Auditoriums

  by suavojr in

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  let the merging begin!!!.

  to all bodies of elders in the united states branch territory.

  re: fully utilizing kingdom hall auditoriums.

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  JWdaughter14 days ago

  One thing to remember is that even churches have to "fit" in the places they are located. The more crowded they are making those halls, the more street parking happens.

  I went to pickup my DIL and grandkids yesterday, I have to pass a very well hidden KH in an exclusive neighborhood. There is no street parking only residents front lawns, well there are at least 100 new No Parking signs throughout this neighborhood now AND one of those traffic flashing signs facing the KH that reads No Parking / Fines $40.00.

  Honestly you would need a GPS to find this KH.
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  For Dog Lovers-- Meet Stanley!

  by Sail Away in

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  have you ever had a dog that was dumber than a box of rocks?

  i have; his name was dave matthews.

  we loved him anyway.

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  I tried to train my dogs, it worked to a point. I had a son who untrained some of my training!! Urg!

  I learned how to re-screen the patio door because neither would open it. LOL My son also taught her how to come into the house through the screen in the window. I really think my SON needed the training.

  Guess who got trained how to do the "fix" screening. Then he asked me why did you ever teach that dog to do that? LOL
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  Jehovah's Witnesses and racial prejudice by Werner Cohn

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  race is asserting itself as a problematic issue united states once more.

  i always thought jws had a relatively good track record on race.

  they preach a world without prejudice after all.

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  rebelfighter

  Sparrowdown,

  Is this type of attitude still going on today?
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  Jehovah's Witnesses and racial prejudice by Werner Cohn

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  race is asserting itself as a problematic issue united states once more.

  i always thought jws had a relatively good track record on race.

  they preach a world without prejudice after all.

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  rebelfighter

  Great topic. Never a JW, I have always wondered how and when the JWS made this transition? I grew up in the US during the transition my high school years were 1. 10th grade all white 2. 11th grade you had a choice of school so bussing started on a limited basis 3.12th grade mandatory bussing so they achieved a 50/50 ratio.

  So this switch in attitude toward the separation of the black/white/Hispanic congregations and thus a merging should have taken place sometime around the 60's or maybe into the 70's?

  Which then leads to my next question if the WT eventually caved into societies view of equality of racial differences then why have they stood so firm on women being the under dog and staying in submission to men?

  Along the way many other churches have recognized the value of women in the church and have made them Elders or Ministers, they basically are reading the same Bible.
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  For Dog Lovers-- Meet Stanley!

  by Sail Away in

  1. social
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  have you ever had a dog that was dumber than a box of rocks?

  i have; his name was dave matthews.

  we loved him anyway.

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  Sailaway,

  I love the bell ringing I had never heard of it before.
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  I came here three years ago for support and to make friends

  by KateWild in

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  this site is such a great and valuable resource and simon is to be commended for running it for so long.

  when i first came i was in such a bad state and really needed support and friendship.

  so many posters commented on my threads and showed genuine care some are real life friends, some are facebook friends, some i talk to on the phone and some are forum friends.. i have just realised though that everyone online is not your friend.

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  KateWild

  Chemistry and Biology sorry for the mixup. My field was always math or the arts. Those were the sciences and when I was in school oh lordy day get me out of here quick. Those were science and not my game.
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  I came here three years ago for support and to make friends

  by KateWild in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this site is such a great and valuable resource and simon is to be commended for running it for so long.

  when i first came i was in such a bad state and really needed support and friendship.

  so many posters commented on my threads and showed genuine care some are real life friends, some are facebook friends, some i talk to on the phone and some are forum friends.. i have just realised though that everyone online is not your friend.

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  Cofty,

  My introduction to the JW world was that stupid book on Families the "Elder" gave me to read besides the fact that I had to continually go across the room to retrieve it because I threw the damn thing about every other page. I was totally disgusted by the way JW children and women were being treated and had no idea how to approach the Elder in regard to what I was reading. I could not believe in today's society that this crap was going on.

  I also write a lot about the videos and the abuse going on in the cult. Although I do not write about it I make daily runs by 2 KH'S to see how much traffic appears.

  Yes, I do write a lot about my experiences but that is to give others the realization that they can make it through thier experiences. Although I do not know what it is like to exit a cult. I only have a mother and a sister and depending on what year or month it was would depend on whether they would be shunning me. Yeah NOT JWS but they play the shunning game too. My sister shunned me over silk poinsettias because I would not go get them out of a storage unit for her. Yeap that is my life. 3 months for that offense. I have gone as long as a year not talking to my family because they have no clue how to act like human beings. LOL

  I very well know how someone who has been abused feels Cofty, I know very well. Both my mother and my husband did a very good job. I am a survivor. That is what makes me a Rebel -- at the age of 12 I looked that woman in the face You touch me one more time and you will pick yourself off the ground. And that is why I am a Fighter I fight for everyone's kids -- so you hit your kid and I see it I call 911. Not a problem. I fought for other people's kids education not only mine.
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  I came here three years ago for support and to make friends

  by KateWild in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this site is such a great and valuable resource and simon is to be commended for running it for so long.

  when i first came i was in such a bad state and really needed support and friendship.

  so many posters commented on my threads and showed genuine care some are real life friends, some are facebook friends, some i talk to on the phone and some are forum friends.. i have just realised though that everyone online is not your friend.

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  Cofty,

  Please take this as constructive criticism. You do have some very good post with some very good points. I can also come across very stern at times when I need to in my line of business and my clients understand what is being said must be followed. In other words you do not want to follow my direction I guess my next visit will be with your attorney to figure out how we are getting you out of jail.

  But when I am working with the youth groups and the charity organizations I have a totally different way if phrasing what I want to say, that harshness does not work.

  You are very brass and bullying when someone does not agree with your point of view. I have seen it on many occasions and out right refuse to post on many threads because I know I have differing points of view and will not put up with your mouth. So what if someone sees or believes different then why do you have to shove your beliefs down their throats.

  When you have people who are just exiting a cult or freshly suffering from some sort of abuse they most definitely do not need to be greeted with your attacks. Who gives a care what they believe in as long as it is getting them motivated to get up in the morning moving on with life and making new friends they have just probably lost just about their entire network of family and friends. Let's try to encourage them.

  Maybe chemistry and evolution is your thing but for Kate it is Biology and for me it is Finance and Child and women's advocate issues. To each one we do our thing. The WT tries to make EVERYONE the SAME from what I understand. You are in the real world now. We are all individuals we can believe what we choice to believe. When someone post something so state what you believe or this is what science states and leave it at that. Don't become the WT all over again and continually harp on the same point and get into an argument that goes on for days stating the same point over and over. Don't tell me there wasn't enough name calling in that one. I deal with teenage kids who change their belief every ... wait sometimes every 10 minutes it can be nerve racking. That is why sometimes it is important just to listen and not say a word.

  I do not think you and I will ever agree on much of anything.